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SlavaRoosiya!'s avatar

Sorry, but as far as the 'flour/wheat berry'' thing goes, here's a tip from a 45 yr old woman who lived through the Russian depression of 91-96. "If you had flour, could bake bread, you could trade for ANYTHING as well as be armed to protect your food. To back that up, every old person I met who lived through the US's depression said the #1 skill to have was to be able to make bread. Grains are the go to food staple in every famine event.

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I'll throw my 2 cents in, I'm a poor boy prepper, have been since Ruby Ridge so for quite some time. As far as a gen. I don't know where the $5k came from but I'll tell you the po boy way, you can get a 12k dual fuel gen for $1200 bucks and make a suicide cable for less than $50, this is just a 240vt cable with two male ends, electric goes off you shut the main off at the pole where your electric comes in (this is vital, if you plug your gen in and that main isn't off you'll burn up your gen) plug the suicide cable to your gen and any 240 outlet in the house (dryer plug) and you're up and running. I'm using a 12k to run two houses and a shop when the electric goes down, we're conservative, no electric hot water, make coffee on the stove, but it runs the 220 well pump and my 220 air compressor that I need for work just fine. We run it on lpg and with all the tanks full have 1750 gal of that, the main reason for the gen is keeping all the freezers going and the well pump, but if the electric was gone, EMP or whatever I would start canning everything in the freezers and I have a functional windmill for potable water if things were to go really south. My gen and geiger counter are the only things I have protected with faraday. My point was you can have a gen a helluva lot cheaper than $5k

I agree about the collapsible stove I don't have one and never considered it.

I don't store water, but it's something everyone needs to consider, where's your water coming from and do you have a back up? I have my gen and well, my windmill, 5 ponds and I bought a deep well 12vt pump that's put away just in case. I probably out to get some sort of water purification system in case I was to have to use the ponds some day for drinking water. Everyone needs to really think about their water supply though.

500lbs of X, well I have over 500lbs of X also Y and Z, my reasoning is I've got a lot of family and friends that aren't prepared, I know a lot of people think "every man for himself" but I don't think that lone wolf mentality will work. If things get real bad we're going to get tribal real fast, also I consider that excess barterable material, but you can't rely on stockpiles, eventually they run out. You must be able to produce food and have some barterable skills to trade for it.

As far as the freeze dried food, that stuff is too expensive for this poor boy, if you can afford it great, but like I said, eventually it will run out, investing in some good gardening tools would be a better investment in my mind.

Liquid bleach is one of many things that I stay well stocked up on and rotated, I know it degrades over time but 50% potency after a couple of years is better than none. Like most preppers I buy things in bulk. I've never even came close to running out of toilet paper, I've always said I might resort to eating a gopher but I'll be damned if I'm going to wipe my ass with a rock.

I just glanced at that first aid list, what the hell am I gonna do with a blood pressure cuff and stethoscope? First aid is common sense sort of thing, of course you need antiseptics and bandages, but I suggest keeping one of those suture staplers around, I've used those to staple wounds, not much to it.

That's my 2 cents worth. Good luck folks, buckle up, I think we're in for a rough ride, prepare accordingly

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